Rick Warren of Saddleback Church.
A recent glaring example
of Rick Warren publicly twisting scripture and encouraging
other pastors to follow his lead was on parade at the
Desiring God Conference. It's a very long review but
I'd recommend you listen to it at FightingFortheFaith.com (October
If you don't want to hear all 2 Hours 35 minutes, just
listen to the last 35 minutes. There's plenty of examples
of Rick Warren twisting the Bible, plus at the very
end, Rick Warren refers to having members signing covenants
at his church too, which is something the Bible tells
us not to do. It's amazing that pastors across the country,
and yes here in Evansville Indiana, follow Warren and
Hybels and others like them like Groupies.
Quotes from the www.FightingFortheFaith.com review
and approximate time it occurs on the audio.
2:00 (Hour:Minute) Rick Warren: "...This
is a big one that I think we need to talk about as we
close...If you're gonna teach people how to fight the
battle for the mind, you must teach them how to Let God stretch
2:01 Chris Rosebrough: "What!... we have to teach people
how to let God stretch their imaginations? Where does
it teach this stuff in the Bible? I mean seriously...What
is he talking about? Where in the scripture does it
teach us we have to let God stretch our imaginations?
I can't think of a single passage that says that. Oh
I'm sure we'll get something completely twisted and
out of context.. just hang on a second here it comes. "
2:01 - 2:03 Rick Warren: "....every church that has ever been
started somebody, either a group of people or a church
planter imagined that church. nothing happens until someone
we as pastors need to help our people become great...
2:03:05 Rick Warren: "Proverbs 29 verse 8 says where there is no
vision the people perish"
Chris Rosebrough: It's Proverbs 29 18 actually but even I make those
kinds of mistakes, 29:18
"Where there is no prophetic vision the people cast off
restraint but blessed is he who keeps the law" Proverbs
29:18 doesn't teach us about dreaming things into existence,
he just completely mishandled God's Word here.
yet Rick Warren can't help it. I mean this... he just
is not capable of sound Biblical exegesis anymore
all he does is twist God's Word. And the entire listening
of this experience
has been nothing but a complete mangeling and twisting
of God's Word.
Into all these principles that YOU need to DO.
Where's the cross again...?
2:04 Chris Rosebrough: "Here we are twisting God's Word about
2:05:40 Chris Rosebrough: "....This is an
2:05 Chris Rosebrough: The folks at Desiring
God must rebuke the false teaching here. "I
cannot believe they allowed this to go unchallenged"
2:06 Rick Warren: Where there is no vision the people perish.
What we need today are great dreamers...
2:06:30 Rick Warren: "...what's your dream for the
next 10 years?....
2:07 Rick Warren: "We're getting ready to start in 2 weeks what we're
calling Decade of Destiny at Saddleback and we're actually writing
out dreams for the character changes we want to see in our lives..."
2:07:27 Chris Rosebrough: "And once again he's smoking what he's pushing...'we're
doing the Decade of Destiny.'.. have you done the Decade of Destiny? We'll
you're not as holy as they are if you're not doing the
Decade of Destiny figured out..."
2:08:40 Chris Rosebrough: "... yeah. We need some Luther's that
will vehemently and polemically. write against these
false doctrines by the Purpose Driven
Pope Rick Warren"
Warren: "I'm not talking about changing doctrine"
Rosebrough: "Oh yeah? Well why did you twist God's
Word in order to make this point of yours? Why is it
that all your Purpose Driven hirelings and their churches,
they don't teach sound Biblical doctrine? We review
their sermons on this program daily! Oh yeah, you assure
us that you're not about changing doctrine but doctrine's
are the very things that are being changed right in
front of our eyes or as we are listening to it! We're
hearing God's doctrine's being changed as we listen
to this sermon or to this lecture! Because you keep
twisting God's Word! You don't engage in sound Biblical
You completely treat
the Bible like it's a wax nose or a piece of silly
putty that can
be basically made into whatever figure that you
want it to!"
2:10:16 Rick Warren: "We can only do the impossible if we
see the invisible."
2:10:19 Chris Rosebrough: Isn't that false doctrine? where is that
in the Bible?
2:12:55 At this point, in the audio, Rick Warren twists
2:12:55 Rick Warren: "...a goal is a statement of faith and
without faith it's impossible to please God"
2:13 Chris Rosebrough: "this is damnable ... notice
how he threw that in there? ... this is a complete,
supreme, twisting of God's Word"
2:15-2:16 Chris Rosebrough reads Hebrew 11 and asks "... is
the kind of faith being talked about in Hebrews 11:6
the kind of faith that says you have to have a big grand
almost impossible vision for your life?... Not at all,
what Rick Warren has the audacity to do was to blatantly
twist God's Word and lie about it at the Desiring God
2:17 Chris Rosebrough: "This is
False Doctrine"(what Rick Warren is saying)
Warren: "As we close in this conference on T.H.I.N.K.
I want us to make a covenant together..."
2:22:10 Chris Rosebrough: "Remember what I
told you in my notes? Everything he does always leads
up to some kind of
it is! Here's the commitment! He wants you to enter into
a covenant with him. NO WAY! I will not enter into
a covenant with you Rick Warren! You keep twisting
God's Word in this
entire teaching is spurious! Not only is it completely
soaked in Palagionism, the cross is practically non-existent
in what little you preached of it isn't about the forgiveness
of sins. Christ doesn't factor into
this at all and this whole dream thing that you've
concocted, it's not even in the text. You've completely
mangled Hebrews 11:6 and Proverbs 29:18 to come up
with this weird bizarre doctrine. You're the one who
said earlier in this little sermon thing that you're
doing that if it's new it's untrue. Yeah, all of this
is new. I should reject it as untrue!"
2:23:01 Rick Warren: "Our church is built on 4 covenants.
Membership covenant, maturity covenant, ministry covenant,
mission covenant, most people couldn't join Saddleback
because they wouldn't be willing to keep the
most people know that we do church discipline if you
don't keep the covenants. But I want us to keep a covenant together..."
Hear the complete audio review at http://www.FightingForTheFaith.com
In addition, other Christian websites have written about
Rick Warren's appearance at the Desiring God conference